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Upgrading to 4Gbps fiber: which gateway works with KPN?


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  • 17 reacties
  • 4 juli 2024
Cybex schreef:
NHavenga schreef:

I’ve got the Ubiquiti Dream Machine Pro Max.  Download works well, upload currently limited to 1Gbps but I believe this is a KPN issue.

You connected the fiber directly to the UDM Pro Max and got 4Gbit/s download speeds? I wasn’t aware that the UDM Pro Max is capable of offloading PPPoE to hardware. Can anyone confirm, because I might need to update my hardware in that case :-)  

Hi. It is possible but the PPPoE isn’t handles well on Ubiquity.  Biggest problem I have is that even with the Fritzbox they sent, I’m unable to achieve speeds close to 4Gbps.  I can barely get 1Gbps up.


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  • Slimmerik
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  • 10 augustus 2024

The problem is the legacy PPPoE KPN uses. if you want to get 4 gbps with OPNSense (Or any *BSD) you need a fast CPU or something that acts like the ASIC the Box 14 uses to accelerate PPPoE, though with the new OPNsense 24.7 that runs FreeBSD 14.1 this seems less the case. I use a Minisforum MS-01 i5 version with OPNSense in Proxmox using SR-IOV interfaces. This is not cheap, maintenance friendly or power efficient for just a router. It is really fast though.

I do also have a Qotom Q20331g9 with C3758R but it has been too slow for 4 Gbps single download speeds. With OpenWRT in a VM I could enable more cores and could get full speed using multiple connections, but with OPNSense 24.1 I didn't manage to get it to work at full speed. With the MS-01 I can get 4 gbps using a single HTTPS download. I just use a 80 meter SFP+ copper module for now I got off Aliexpress to connect to the Nokia ONT. The cheaper 30 meter one did not work well and got really hot. The Genexis ONT was also problematic at the start. I did have problems with my QNAP switch, I had to replace it with a Mikrotik.

I can now get the full 4/4 gbps at “off-peak” times, and more like 4/1.5-2 gbps at “peak” times. This probably is a bandwidth limitation of KPN. It's not that I really need 4 Gbps anyway… though it is really nice. fast.com speedtests do ~5.5 GBps with bursts to 7 GBps. the speedtest.net just does 4 GBps.

If someone knows of an affordable plug-and-play solution that requires a bit less maintenance, and gets full speed and has a good amount of features let me know.


Cybex
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  • 10 augustus 2024

Thank you Bastian for your excellent post, very useful information for me personally. I’ll try the same next week. Just one question though, wasn’t it possible to connect the fiber directly in the MS-01? Did you try this?


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  • 11 augustus 2024

I did not try this yet, it requires a fiber optic module/cable and some settings at KPN. But since a Nokia ont was connected I had no problems, and the modules costed like €275. But I saw there now is a module for €130 so i might try that.


Cybex
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  • 11 augustus 2024

Thanks, I ordered the ‘Zaram XGS-PON ONU SFP+’ and I’ll try it the next week and report back once I know more. 


TDN
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  • 11 augustus 2024
Cybex schreef:

Thanks, I ordered the ‘Zaram XGS-PON ONU SFP+’ and I’ll try it the next week and report back once I know more. 


gxjansen
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  • 5 september 2024

@Cybex  how did the Zaram work out for you?

@TDN did the Hisense for with 4Gbps speeds?


Cybex
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  • 5 september 2024

@gxjansen Honestly, I haven't tested it yet—I'm swamped with other projects. But it's on my mental to-do list, so I'll circle back and give it a whirl when things calm down.